Perry, Harvey


Said to be John Harvey Perry (see below)


RootsWeb file on John Harvey Perry


1810 Marriage Certif of Margaret Harvey and John Maw Jr


1976 letter concerning Alfred Perry (son of Thomas Perry) who
emigrated to South Aust in the 1840s

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These are a set of Family History pages sent to me by
a Perry descendant in England, re the family of
Thomas Perry and Elizabeth Harvey








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Information sent to me by a Perry descendant in England....



From: Peter Perry

Date: Thursday, 15 January 2009



Family of Daniel Perry & Elizabeth Heming

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Husband: Daniel PERRY

Occupation:     Biscuit Baker

Born:             2 Mar 1749/50 - Mile End Old Town, Middlesex (1)

Died:             15 Mar 1809 - Woodbridge, Suffolk (2)

Buried:           23 Mar 1809 - Quaker Burial, Woodbridge, Suffolk (2)

Father:           Stephen PERRY, Cowkeeper of Stepney (1715-1785)

Mother:          Elizabeth SIMS (1724-1798)

Married:         22 Jun 1775

Place:            Quaker Meeting, Ipswich, Suffolk (3)

Events:           28 Mar 1791 - Named Executor in Will of his mother Elizabeth Perry of Stepney Green, Stepney,

Middlesex. (4)

Abt 1792 - Moved from Stepney Green to Woodbridge,Suffolk.

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Wife: Elizabeth HEMING

Born: 23 Jan 1750/51 - Ipswich, Suffolk (5)

Died: 13 Nov 1814 (6)

Buried: 18 Nov 1814 - Quaker Burial, Woodbridge, Suffolk

Father: Thomas HEMING, Tin Plate Worker (Abt 1715-1789)

Mother: Ann (Abt 1721-1761)

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Children:

1  F  Sarah PERRY

       Born: Mar 1776 - St Mary Whitechapel, Middlesex (7)

       Died: Mar 1776 - St Mary Whitechapel, Middlesex (7)

     Buried: Mar 1776 - Quaker Burial, Whitechapel, Middlesex (7)

2  F  Elizabeth PERRY

       Born: Mar 1776 - St Mary Whitechapel, Middlesex (7)

       Died: Mar 1776 - St Mary Whitechapel, Middlesex (7)

     Buried: Mar 1776 - Quaker Burial, Whitechapel, Middlesex (7)

3  M  Thomas PERRY, Biscuit Baker, Reading

       Born: 19 Feb 1777 - St Mary Whitechapel, Middlesex (8)

       Died: 16 Jan 1847 - Finsbury, Middlesex

     Buried: 21 Jan 1847 - Bunhill Fields, Middlesex

     Spouse: Elizabeth HARVEY (Abt 1785-1838)

       Mar : 21 Dec 1809 - Quaker Meeting, Barking, Essex (9)

4  F  Mary PERRY

       Born: 2 Jul 1778 - St Mary Whitechapel, Middlesex (10)

       Died: 12 Jul 1778 - Whitechapel, Stepney, Middlesex

     Buried: 14 Jul 1778 - Quaker Burial, Whitechapel, Middlesex (11)

5  M  John PERRY

       Born: 16 Jul 1779 - St Mary Whitechapel,Middlesex (12)

       Died: 19 Oct 1779 - Whitechapel Road, Whitechapel, Middlesex (13)

     Buried: 21 Oct 1779 - Quaker Burial, Whitechapel, Middlesex (13)

6  M  Daniel PERRY

       Born: 11 Aug 1780 - St Mary Whitechapel,Middlesex (14)

       Died: 17 Sep 1780 - Whitechapel Road,Whitechapel,Middlesex (15)

     Buried: 20 Sep 1780 - Quaker Burial,Whitechapel,Middlesex (15)

7  M  Stephen PERRY

       Born: Sep 1781 - St Mary Whitechapel,Middlesex (16)

       Died: 17 Sep 1781 - Whitechapel Road,Whitechapel,Middlesex (16)

     Buried: 18 Sep 1781 - Quaker Burial,Whitechapel,Middlesex (16)

8  M  Joseph PERRY

       Born: 12 Nov 1782 - St Mary Whitechapel,Middlesex (17)

       Died: 19 Mar 1786 - Whitechapel Road,Whitechapel,Middlesex (18)

     Buried: 23 Mar 1786 - Quaker Burial,Whitechapel,Middlesex (18)

9  M  Stephen PERRY

       Born: 1 Jan 1784 - St Mary Whitechapel,Middlesex (19)

       Died: 24 Nov 1785 - Whitechapel Road,Whitechapel,Middlesex (20)

     Buried: 27 Nov 1785 - Quaker Burial,Whitechapel,Middlesex (20)

10  M  Daniel PERRY

       Born: 29 May 1785 - St Mary Whitechapel,Middlesex (21)

       Died: 12 Jul 1785 - Whitechapel Road,Whitechapel,Middlesex (22)

     Buried: 15 Jul 1785 - Quaker Burial,Whitechapel,Middlesex (22)

11  M  Henry PERRY

       Born: 17 Oct 1786 - St Mary Whitechapel,Middlesex (23)

       Died: 27 Apr 1788 - Whitechapel Road,Whitechapel,Middlesex (24)

     Buried: 1 May 1788 - Quaker Burial,Whitechapel,Middlesex (24)

12  F  Elizabeth PERRY

       Born: 19 Jul 1788 - St Mary Whitechapel,Middlesex (25)

       Died: 1861 - Rochester,Kent (26)

     Spouse: William GREENWOOD, Silversmith of Rochester (1794-1885)

        Mar: 6 May 1819 - Quaker Meeting,Rochester,Kent (27)

13  F  Mary Ann PERRY

       Born: 8 Oct 1789 - Stepney Green,Stepney,Middlesex (28)

       Died: 18 Jun 1790 - Stepney Green,Stepney,Middlesex (29)

     Buried: 22 Jun 1790 - Quaker Burial,Whitechapel,Middlesex (29)

14  F  Hannah PERRY

       Born: 23 Feb 1791 - Stepney Green,Stepney,Middlesex (30)

       Died: 9 Apr 1878 - Dover,Kent (31)

     Buried: 15 Apr 1878 - Quaker Burial,Charlton,Dover,Kent (31)

     Spouse: James POULTER, Brewer (1793-1872)

        Mar: 1819 (32)

15  M  Joseph PERRY, Ironfounder, Reading

       Born: 25 Jan 1793 - Woodbridge,Suffolk (33)

       Died: 5 May 1831 - Warneford,Headington,Oxfordshire (34)

     Buried: 10 May 1831 - St Andrew,Headington,Oxfordshire (35)

     Events: 25 Mar 1831 - Admitted to Warneford Lunatic Asylum at

Headington,Oxfordshire. (34) Died within two months.

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Husband's General Notes: (36)

From James Jenkins: On 15/3/1809 "died my old friend and relation (by marriage) Daniel Perry, at Woodbridge, baker.  He exercised that trade during several years in London, but the want of sufficient success caused him to remove into the country, where he became prosperous and died in comfortable circumstances."

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Sources



1. Quaker Register of Births, Marriages& Burials from Devonshire House Monthly Meeting, RG 6/1103 Bk.881 p.4.   Born 2/1/1749/50 at Mile End Old Town in the parish of Stepney: Daniel Perry of Elizabeth & Stephen Perry.



2. Quaker Digest Index of Births, Marriages & Burials from Suffolk Meetings, MM Woodbridge. Daniel Perry died 15/3/1809, abt.59yrs.  Bur. 23/3/1809 at Woodbridge.



3. Ibid, MM Woodbridge. Marr. 22/6/1775 at Ipswich: Elizabeth Heming, spinster of Ipswich, of Thomas & Ann Heming of Ipswich, to Daniel Perry, baker of St Mary parish, Whitechapel, of Stephen& Elizabeth Perry of Mile End, Middlesex.



4. G.S. Parry, Abstracts of Perry Wills proved and Admons. granted in the Prerogative Court of Canterbury, No.888.   Elizabeth Perry, widow of Stepney Green:  To my son Daniel Perry, £30, to make him equal with his bros, who had £50 each left them by Mary Funstone.  To my son John Perry, my father's great bible, & to my son Joseph Ollive Perry, a bed & etc.  To my dau. Ann Shelton, 10gs.  Res. to my son Joseph and dau. Ann.  Money I have in my bro. Thomas Smith's hands to my son Daniel, in trust for my grandchildren.  My son Daniel and my sister, Margaret Thresher to be execs., assisted by my sister Mary Smith.  Witnesses: Mary Smith, Lydia Fisher.  Dated 28/3/1791.



5. Quaker Digest Index of Births, Marriages & Burials from Suffolk Meetings, MM Woodbridge. Elizabeth Hemmings, born 23/11/1750 of Thos. & Ann.



6. Ibid, Bk.1066 p.97. Elizabeth Perry died 13/11/1814, abt.64yrs, widow. Bur. 18 /11/1814, Woodbridge.  Monthly meeting: Woodbridge.



7. Quaker Register of Births, Marriages& Burials from Devonshire House Monthly Meeting, RG 6/648 Bk.886 pp.2-3.   Died March 1776 of convulsions: Sarah, age one day, & Elizabeth, age abt 5 days, daughters of Daniel Perry of St Mary WhiteChapple.  Buried March 1776.



8. Ibid, RG 6/665 Bk.882 p.15.   Born 19/2/1777 in Road Side, St Mary WhiteChapple, Middx.: Thomas Perry of Elizabeth & Daniel Perry, baker.



9. Quaker Register of Births, Marriages & Burials from Barking Monthly Meeting, RG/6/538 Bk.921 p.14.   Marr. 21/12/1809 at Meeting House in Barking: Elizabeth Harvey, of John Harvey, late of West Ham, Essex, & his surviving wife Ann; to Thomas Perry, ironfounder of Millbrook, Hants., of Daniel Perry, baker, late of Woodbridge, & his surviving wife Elizabeth.



10. Quaker Register of Births, Marriages& Burials from Devonshire House Monthly Meeting, RG 6/665 Bk.882 p.28.   Born 2/7/1778 in Roadside, St Mary WhiteChaple: Mary of Elizabeth & Daniel Perry, baker.



11. Quaker Digest Register of Births, Marriages & Burials from London & Middlesex Meetings.   Died 12/7/1778: Mary Perry, abt.11days, of Elizabeth & Daniel, of Whitechapel.  Buried 14/7/1778 in Whitechapel.



12. Quaker Register of Births, Marriages& Burials from Devonshire House Monthly Meeting, RG 6/665 Bk.882 p.38. Born 16/7/1779 in Roadside, St Mary WhiteChaple: John of Elizabeth & Daniel Perry, baker.



13. Quaker Digest Register of Births, Marriages & Burials from London & Middlesex Meetings, MM Devonshire House. Died 19/10/1779: John Perry, abt.3mos., of Elizabeth & Daniel, baker, of Whitechapel Road in parish of St Mary Whitechapel.  Buried 21/10/1779 in Whitechapel.



14. Quaker Register of Births, Marriages& Burials from Devonshire House Monthly Meeting, RG 6/665 Bk.882.   Born 11/8/1780 in Road Side, St Mary WhiteChapple:  Daniel of Elizabeth & Daniel Perry, baker.



15. Quaker Digest Register of Births, Marriages & Burials from London & Middlesex Meetings, MM Devonshire House.   Died 17/9/1780: Daniel Perry, abt. 5wks, of Daniel, baker, of Whitechapel Road in parish of St Mary Whitechapel.  Buried 20/9/1780 in Whitechapel.



16. Ibid, MM Devonshire House.  Died 17/9/1781: Stephen Perry, abt.2wks, of Elizabeth & Daniel, baker, of Roadside in parish of St Mary Whitechapel. Buried 18/9/1781 at Whitechapel.



17. Quaker Register of Births, Marriages& Burials from Devonshire House Monthly Meeting, RG 6/665 Bk.882 p.82.   Born 12/11/1782 in RoadSide, St Mary WhiteChapple: Joseph of Elizabeth & Daniel Perry, baker.



18. Quaker Digest Register of Births, Marriages & Burials from London & Middlesex Meetings, MM Devonshire House.   Died of measles 19/3/1786: Joseph Perry, abt.3yrs, of Elizabeth & Daniel, of Roadside in parish of St Mary Whitechapel .  Buried 23/3/1786 in Whitechapel.



19. Quaker Register of Births, Marriages& Burials from Devonshire House Monthly Meeting, RG 6/665 Bk.882 p.95.   Born 1/1/1784 in Road Side, St Mary WhiteChaple: Stephen of Elizabeth & Daniel Perry, baker.



20. Quaker Digest Register of Births, Marriages & Burials from London & Middlesex Meetings, MM Devonshire House.   Died 24/11/1785: Stephen Perry, abt.2yrs, of Elizabeth & Daniel, baker, of Whitechapel Road in parish of St Mary Whitechapel.  Buried 27/11/1785 in Whitechapel.



21. Quaker Register of Births, Marriages& Burials from Devonshire House Monthly Meeting, RG 6/665 Bk.882 p.116.   Born 29/5/1785 in the Road Side, St Mary WhiteChapple: Daniel of Elizabeth & Daniel Perry.



22. Quaker Digest Register of Births, Marriages& Burials from London & Middlesex Meetings, MM Devonshire House.   Died of convulsions 12/7/1785: Daniel Perry, abt.6wks, of E lizabeth & Daniel, of Mile End in parish of St Mary Whitechapel.  Buried 15/7/1785 in Whitechapel.



23. Quaker Register of Births, Marriages& Burials from Devonshire House Monthly Meeting, RG 6/665 Bk.882 p.130.   Born 17/10/1786 in The Road Side in St Mary White Chapple: Henry Perry, of Elizabeth & Daniel Perry, baker.



24. Quaker Digest Register of Births, Marriages & Burials from London & Middlesex Meetings, MM Devonshire House.   Died 27/4/1788: Henry Perry, abt.18  mnths, of Danl. & Elizabeth, of Whitechapel Road in parish of St Mary Whitechapel .  Buried 1/5/1788 at Whitechapel.



25. Ibid, Born 19/7/1788: Elizabeth of Elizabeth & Daniel Perry.



26. Thomas Perry, "An Account of some of the Ancestors of our Family", (in The Commonplace Book of Elizabeth Sims), Elizabeth, born 1788, died at Rochester 1861 aged 72.



27. Quaker Register of Births, Marriages& Burials from Rochester Monthly Meeting, RG 6/375 Bk.730.   Marr. 6/5/1819 at Rochester: William Greenwood, silversmith of Rochester, son of John Greenwood, silversmith, deceased, late of Rochester, & Mary, his wife, TO Elizabeth Perry dau. of Elizabeth & Daniel Perry, baker, late of Woodbridge, both deceased.



28. Quaker Digest Register of Births, Marriages & Burials from London & Middlesex Meetings, MM Ratcliff & Barking.   Born 8/10/1789: Mary Ann of Elizabeth & Daniel Perry.



29. Quaker Register of Births, Marriages& Burials from Ratcliff & Barking Monthly Meeting, RG 6/669 Bk.915 p.98.   Died 18/6/1790 of convulsions: Mary Ann Perry, abt 8 mos., of Elizabeth & Daniel Perry, of Stepney Green in parish of St Dunstan Stepney, a member of Ratcliff Monthly Meeting. Buried 22/6/1790 in Friends Burial Ground near Whitechapel.



30. Quaker Digest Register of Births, Marriages & Burials from London & Middlesex Meetings, MM Ratcliff & Barking.   Born 23/2/1791 at Stepney: Hannah of Elizabeth & Danl. Perry.



31. Quaker Digest of Deaths 1837-1961.   Died 9/4/1878: Hannah Poulter, 87yrs, widow of Dover.  Buried 15/4/1878 at Charlton.



32. Thomas Perry, "An Account of some of the Ancestors of our Family", (in The Commonplace Book of Elizabeth Sims), Hannah, born 1791, married 1819 James Poulter of Ramsey, Hunts.



33. Quaker Digest Index of Births, Marriages & Burials from Suffolk Meetings, MM Woodbridge. Born 25/1/1793 at Woodbridge: Joseph of Elizabeth & Daniel Perry, baker.



34. Warneford Hospital: Admissions & D, Admitted 25/3/1831.   Perry, Jas. 38, married, from Reading.  Died 5/5/31.



35. Parish Registers for Headington, Oxfordshire, Burial.  10/5/1831: Joseph Perry, 38yrs, Lunatic Assylum.



36. James Jenkins et al, Pen Pictures of London Yearly Meeting 1789-1833, (Friends Historical Society 1929), First Part p.8.



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Copy of Quaker Marriage Certif of Daniel Perry and Eliz Heming....





Wedding Certificate




Daniel Perry of the parish of St Mary Whitechapel London, Baker, son of Stephen Perry of Mile End Middlesex, Cowkeeper, and Elizabeth his wife, and Elizabeth Heming of Ipswich in the County of Suffolk, Spinster, daughter of Thomas Heming of Ipswich aforesaid, Tinman, and Ann his wife deceased,

            Having declared their intentions of taking each other in marriage before several Meetings of the People called Quakers, in Ipswich aforesaid, and the Processing of the said Daniel Perry and Elizabeth Heming, after due enquiry and deliberate consideration thereof, were allowed by the said Meetings, they appearing clear of all other and having consent of parents and relations concerned,

            Now these are to certify all whom it may concern that for the accomplishing of their said marriages this twenty second day of the sixth month, called June in the year one thousand seven hundred and seventy five, they the said Daniel Perry and Elizabeth Heming appeared in a Publick Assembly of the aforesaid People and others in their Meeting House in Ipswich aforesaid,

            And he the said Daniel Perry, taking the said Elizabeth Heming to be my wife, and promising through Divine assistance to be unto her a faothful and loving husband until it shall please the Lord by death to separate us (or words to that import),

            And the said Elizabeth Heming did then and there in the said Assembly in like manner declare as followeth, Friends in the fear of the Lord, and before this Assembly, I take this my friend Daniel Perry to be my husband promising this [with] Divine assistance to be unto him a faithful and loving wife until it shall please the Lord by death to separate us (or words to that import),

            And the said Daniel Perry and Elizabeth Heming, as a further confirmation thereof, and in testimony thereunto did then and there to these promises set their hand,

                                                            Daniel Perry

                                                            Elizabeth Heming

Relations

            We whose names are hereunto subscribed, being present among others at the solemninizing of the abovesaid marriages, and subscription in manner aforesaid [ablisitance?] thereunto have also to these [Presents?] subscribed our names, the day and year above written,



Robert Bennett           Sarah Roper              John Head Jnr           Thomas Heming

Charles Cornwallis     Ann Betts                  Ann Head Jnr            Stephen Perry

Thomas Hallum          Ann Rupler ?             Mary Head                Elizabeth Perry

A. T. Rivett                 John Howes               John Griffith              Ann Turly ?

William Wilkinson      Mary Vinn                  Frances Griffith        Martha Heming

John Lamb                   Dorothy Ashton         John Townsend         Thomas Heming Jnr

Isaac Reckett                Robert Lewis             Robert Hall               Ann Heming

Jonathon Boya             Racheal Morling         Samuel Pickering     Samuel Heming

William Flindale          Jacob Giles                William Maw ?          Deborah Heming

John Thorne                 Thomas Page Jnr        William Groom         Ann Shelton

Samuel Withnall           Lydia Foukerd ?          John Brook              Joseph Ollive Perry

Sarah Powell                Charles Harris             William Badley        John Shelton

Ann Clarke                   Mary Thornduck ?     Mary Timperly ?       Thomas White

Mary Prigg                   Joseph Prigg               Mary Lind                John Sims

Winifred Hibbs             Mary Harrison           Ann Garrod              Mary Sims

James Bush                   Mary Mace ?             Margaret Head          Ann Bundock

J. M. Moore                  Elizabeth Harrison    Ann Morris               Margaret Thresher

John Samanice ?           Mary Ward                Mary Venn                Joseph Talvin ?

Mar? Hawes?                Samuel Conder         Mariah Brown          Elizabeth Talvin ?

                                    Margaret Bush           John Taylor               Elizabeth Talvin ? Jnr

                                    Ann Duck                  Daniel Atkinson        Thomas Broadbank

                                    John Wake                 Mary Scott                Sarah Beck

                                    Thomas Catchpole ?   Mary Hall                 John Head

                                                                        Simon Maw              Ann Head

                                                                        John Barker               Samuel Atkinson

                                                                   Samuel Carsonson ?       Ann Atkinson

                                                                                                          Ralph Thresher



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 Berkshire 1851 Census.



(ex FHOnline)



Place Didcot

ED 7 Sched 58

Addr – 

TNA Ref HO107 1690 Folio 106 Page 12



Name Edward Perry /  Rel Head  / Status M  / Age 38  / Sex M  / Occupation Railway foreman

Birth place Bermondsey, SRY, ENG  / Disab – 



Name Louisa Perry  / Rel Wife  / Status M  / Age 33  / Sex F  / Occupation –

Birth place Reading, BRK, ENG  / Disab –



Name J Edward Perry  / Rel Son  / Status –  / Age 6  / Sex M  / Occupation Scholar 

Birth place Reading, BRK, ENG  / Disab –



Name Margaret Wickens  / Rel Sister  / Status M  / Age 33  / Sex F  / Occupation –

Birth place Hackney, MDX, ENG  / Disab –



Name Lucy Wickens  / Rel Niece  / Status –  / Age 3  / Sex F  / Occupation –

Birth place Reading, BRK, ENG  / Disab –


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Family Record Group for Thomas Perry & Elizabeth Harvey



Thomas Perry



Occ: Biscuit Baker

Born: 19/2/1777 ‑ Stepney, Middlesex

Baptised: No baptism – Quaker

Died: 16/1/1847 ‑ Finsbury, Middlesex (1)

Buried: 21/1/1847 ‑ Bunhill Fields, Middlesex (1)

Father: Daniel Perry, Biscuit Baker (1750‑1809)

Mother: Elizabeth HEMING (1751‑1814)

Married: 21/12/1809 Place: Quaker Meeting, Barking, Essex (2)

Events - Bet 1809‑1810: Partnership of Pritchett & Perry, Ironfounders at  Millbrook,Southampton,Hampshire. (3)

In 1810 the firm of Pritchett & Perry of Millbrook became insolvent. Both partners were disowned by the Quaker Monthly Meeting. (3)

25/9/1812 - Occupation: Clerk in Grange Walk,St Mary Magdalene,Jersey.(4) On birth of Edward Perry

12/9/I814: Occupation: Accountant in St Matthew, Bethnal Green,Middlesex. (5) On birth of John Harvey Perry.

Abt 1818, with his brother Joseph, started an iron foundry in Reading. According to T.A.B. Corley "After holding a clerk's job for some years Thomas Perry and his brother Joseph moved to Reading and together set up a new foundry situated at the corner of Horn Street and Katesgrove Lane." (6)

1820: Business: Biscuit baker in market place,Reading,Berkshire. According to T.A.B. Corley "In 1820 Thomas Perry ran into further financial trouble, connected with either his previous or a new bankruptcy.... [and] he became a biscuit baker in Reading Market Place; his biscuits earned the commendation of the novelist Mary Russell Mitford." (6)

Abt 1839 he retired from the biscuit bakery in Reading. Moved to Finsbury in London. Wm. White's recollections in 1895: "Thos. Perry ... had a very nice looking Biscuit shop [in abt. 18301 and for years following in the Market Place and afterwards in Duke Street‑"



Elizabeth HARVEY 



Born: Abt 1785  Died: 11/2/1838 ‑ Reading, Berkshire (9)

Father: John HARVEY

Mother: Ann

Events - In 1820 Thomas & Elizabeth Perry started a popular biscuit bakery in the market place in Reading. According to Mary Russell Mitford they were ',a Quaker couple, so alert, so intelligent, so accurately and delicately clean in all their looks, and ways, and wares, that the very sight of their bright counter, and its simple but tempting cakes, gave their customers an appetite. They were the fashion, too ........ nothing could go down for luncheon in any family of gentility but [the Quaker] biscuits." (10, 11)



Their children



1 - Alfred Perry, Farmer

Born: 8/9/1810 ‑ Four Posts, Millbrook, Hampshire (12)

Baptised: No babtism ‑ Quaker

Died: Aft 1870 ‑ South Australia (13)

Events : 1838: Emigrated to South Australia from Reading,Berkshire. (14)

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2 - Edward Perry

Born: 25/9/1812 ‑ Grange Walk, St Mary Magdalene, Jersey (4)

Baptised: No babtism ‑ Quaker

Died: 1874 ‑ Reading, Berkshire (15)

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3 - John Harvey Perry, Accountant

Born: 12/9/1814 St Matthew, Bethnal Green, Middlesex (5)

Baptised: No babtism - Quaker

Died: Aft 1870 ‑ South Australia (16)

Spouse: Priscilla BROWETT ( ‑

Marr : 12/2/1846 ‑ Quaker Meeting, Stoke Newington, Middlesex (17)

Events - 12/2/1846: Lived at New North Street, Finsbury, Middlesex. Occupation: Accountant (17)

Abt 1C48: Emigrated to South Australia. (16)

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4 - Margaret Thresher Perry

Born: 21/8/1817 St Matthew, Bethnal Green, Middlesex (18)

Baptised: No babtism -Quaker

Died: Bet 1870 ‑ South Australia (19)

Spouse: Charles WICKENS, Baker ( ‑

Marr : 1840 ‑ Reading,Berkshire (20)

Events – Abt 1850: Emigrated to South Australia. (19)

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5 - Lucy Perry

Born: 26/9/1819 ‑ Seven Bridges, St Giles, Reading, Berkshire (21)

Baptised: No babtism ‑ Quaker

Died: Aft 1870 ‑ South Australia (22)

Spouse: James PUPLETT, Biscuit Baker ( 

Marr : 30/1/1840 ‑ Quaker Meeting, Reading, Berkshire (7)

Events – 30/1/1840: Lived at London Street, Reading, Berkshire (7)

Abt 1850: Emigrated to South Australia. (23)

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Source Citations (for above)



[ 1 ]. Quaker Digest of Marriages and Deaths after 1837, MM Devonshire House.

Died 16/1/1847: Thomas Perry, abt. 69 yrs, of 22 New North St., Finsbury, late baker of Reading. Buried 21/1/1847 at Bunhill Fields. (Not in membership).



[ 2 ]. Quaker Register of Births, Marriages & Burials from Barking Monthly Meeting, RG/6/538 Bk.921 p.14.



[ 3 ]. T.A.B. Corley, "Iron Works at Reading: The Partnership Era" in Berkshire Archaeological Journal, (Vol.67 1973‑74), pp.79‑80. A mould board was manufactured by Pritchett & Perry of Millbrook in 1809. "The partners were

both Quakers, Henry Pritchett and Thomas Perry (1777‑1840): Pritchett came from a local family while Perry was the son of a London baker .... The Millbrook firm very soon collapsed, for in 1810 the partners were reported as having 'absconded and not paid their just debts', and the Quaker Monthly Meeting sent a deputation to interview them. Perry thereupon accused Pritchett of having failed to pay in the additional capital he had promised, but was himself charged with having taken a 'considerable' sum out of the business for his own private use. In the circumstances the Monthly Meeting judged both equally culpable and disowned them.".



[ 4 ]. Quaker Digest of Registers from Dorset & Hampshire Meetings, MM Poole & Southton. Born 25/9/1812 at Grange Walk, parish of St Mary Magdalene, Jersey: Edward of Elizabeth & Thomas Perry, clerk of Grange Walk.



[ 5 ]. Quaker Register for Births, Marriages & Burials from Devonshire House Monthly Meeting, RG 6/413 Bk.884 p.33. Born l2/9/1814 at Bath Street, Bethnall Green John Harvey of Eliz.& Thomas Perry, accountant of St

Matthew's Parish.



[ 6 ]. T.A.B. Corley, "Iron Works at Reading: The Partnership Era" in Berkshire Archaeological Journal, (Vol.67 1973‑74), p.80.



[ 7 ]. Quaker Digest of Marriages and Deaths after 1837, MM Reading Warboro'. Marr. 30/1/1840 at Reading: James Puplett, bachelor of 4 Duke Street, Reading, biscuit baker, son of Daniel Puplett, coal merchant, to Lucy Perry, spinster of 8 London Street, Reading, dau. of Thomas Perry, late biscuit baker.



[ 8 ]. William White of Edgbaston, Birmingham, "Exerpts from Letter dated 25/2/1895 to Joseph J. Green".



[ 9 ]. Quaker Digest of Marriages and Deaths after 1837, 11/2/1838  Elizabeth Perry, 53yrs, of Reading, wife of Thomas.



[ 10 ]. M.R. Mitford, Belford Regis, or Sketches of a Country Town, (London 1835), Vol.1 P.181



[ 11 ]. List of the Voters at the Election for Parliament for the Borough of Reading, Jun.1826. Perry, Joseph, Horn‑street, ironfounder. Perry, Thomas, Market‑place, biscuitbaker.



[ 12 ]. Quaker Digest of Registers from Dorset & Hampshire Meetings, MM Poole & Southton. Born 8/9/1810 at Four Posts, parish of Millbrook, Hampshire: Alfred of Elizabeth& Thomas Perry, ironfounder.



[ 13 ]. Thomas Perry, "An Account of some of the Ancestors of our Family”, in The Commonplace Book of Elizabeth Sims), p.129. Alfred Perry emigrated to South Australia, became a farmer and died 14/4/1889.



[ 14 ]. Stephen Perry (1796‑1871), Miscellaneous Letters, B.24. Alfred lived at Reading until he migrated to South Australia in 1838, having, it is believed, previously resigned his membership in the Society



[ 15 ]. General Register Office Index of Births, Marriages & England & Wales, Death Mar 1874: Edward Perry, 6lyrs, Reading, Vol.2c p244



[ 16 ]. Stephen Perry (1796‑1871), Miscellaneous Letters, B24 1871 John Harvey emigrated to South Australia about the year 1848 and died there several years ago.



[ 17 ]. Quaker Digest of Marriages and Deaths after 1837, MM Gracechurch Street Marr. 12/2/1846 at Stoke Newington: Priscilla Browett To John Harvey Perry, bachelor, accountant of 21 New North Street,  Finsbury, son of Thomas Perry.



[ 18 ]. Quaker Register for Births, Marriages & Burials from Devonshire House Monthly Meeting, RG 6/413 Bk.884.



[ 19 ]. Stephen Perry (1796‑1871), Miscellaneous Letters, B.24 1871. Margaret., ... emigrated to South Australia about the year 1850 and died there a few years ago.



[ 20 ]. General Register Office Index of Births, Marriages & Deaths in England & Wales, Marr. Dec 1840: Reading Vol.6 p.396. Charles Wickens & Margaret Thresher Perry.



[ 21 ]. Quaker Digest Register of Births, Marriages & Deaths from Berks. & Oxfordshire Meetings, MM Reading & Warboro.



[ 22 ]. Stephen Perry (1796‑1871), Miscellaneous Letters, B.24 1871. A letter from Lucy in South Australia "contained an account of a family gathering at Alfred's house at Christmas 187O and it showed plainly that she and Alfred

(the survivors) were 'resident' in South Australia at that time.".



[ 23 ]. Ibid, B.24 1871. Lucy  emigrated with her sisters to South Australia ‑‑ she is still living there. [1871]



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Family Group Record for Joseph Perry & Martha White





Joseph Perry

Occ : Ironfounder

Born: 25 Jan 1793 ‑ Woodbridge,Suffolk (1)

Baptised: No babtism ‑ Quaker

Died: 5 May 1831 ‑ Warneford,Headington,Oxfordshire (2)

Buried: 10 May 1831 ‑ St Andrew,Headington,Oxfordshire (3)

Father: Daniel Perry, Biscuit Baker (1750‑1809) Mother: Elizabeth HEMING (1751‑1814)

Married: 15 Sep 1818 Place: St Thomas,Winchester,Hampshire (4, 5)



Events -

1823: Occupation: Tronfounder at Horn Street in Reading,Berkshire. vide Pigot's Directory of Berkshire: Reading Iron Founders: Perry, Joseph, Horn‑st.

1 Jun 1826: Lived at Horn Street, Reading,Berkshire. Occupation: Ironfounder (6)



30/1/1830: Will written at Reading,Rerkshire. Left his property, trade & business to "my dear wife Martha" (7)



25 Mar 1831: Admitted to Radcliffe Asylum at Warneford,Headington,Oxfordshire. (2) Died within two months.



Martha White



Born: Abt 1790 ‑ Winchester,Hampshire (8)

Baptised: 3 Mar 1791 ‑ St Thomas,Winchester,Hampshire (9)

Died: Sep 1848 ‑ Reading,Berkshire (8)  Buried: 14 Sep 1848 ‑Reading,Rerkshire (8)

Father: John White (Abt 1752-   ) [hw … St Thomas Winchester marr 25/4/1777 ]

Mother: Ann Matthews (Abt 1756 -



Events -

11 Nov 1831: Present at Probate of will of Joseph Perry at London,England. (10)

1842: Lived at 6 Horn Street, St Giles,Reading,Berkshire. vide Post Office Reading Directory.

11 Mar 1845: Will written at Reading,Berkshire.(11)



Their children



1 - Henry White Perry

Occ : Chemist & Druggist   [hw… Grt Grt Grandfather ]

Born: 14 Nov 1819 ‑ St Giles,Reading,Berkshire (12)

Baptised: No baptism – Quaker

Died: 19 Feb 1893 ‑Cheitenham,Gloucestershire (13)

Spouse: Esther Elizabeth Duggan (1824‑1867)

Marr‑ Date: 26 Oct 1846 ‑ St Luke's,Middlesex (14, 15)

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2 - William Edward Perry

Occ : Builder

Born: 11 Oct 1820 St Giles,Reading,Berkshire (16)

Baptised: No babtism Quaker

Died: 1890 ‑ Derby,England (17)

Spouse: Eliza Everard (      ‑1874)

Marr. Date: 8 Jun 1867 ‑ St Mary, Lambeth, Surrey (18)

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3 - Frederick Perry

Occ : Emigrant

Born: 23 Oct 1822 St Giles, Reading, Berkshire (19, 20)

Baptised: No baptism Quaker

Died: 5 Jul 1878 New Jersey,U.S.A. (21)

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4 - Martha Perry

Born: 20 Nov 1824 St Giles,Reading,Berkshire (22)

Baptised: No babtism Quaker

Spouse: Philip BELL

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5 - Elizabeth White Perry

Born: 6 Nov 1826 ‑ St Giles,Reading,Berkshire (23)

Baptised: No babtism ‑ Quaker

Died: 4 Jul 1860 ‑ Sheffield,Yorkshire (24)

Spouse: Thomas Stannard Algar, Stationer & Printer (1825‑1888)

Marr: 12 Jun 1849 ‑ St Giles,Reading,Berkshire (25)

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Husband's General Notes:

Recollections of the Quaker William White: "Joseph Perry had an Ironfoundry in Reading .... the largest manufactory in the town at that time. Then it became Perry & Barrett ‑‑‑ afterwards P.B. & Exall and since then Reading Ironworks Co. I believe Joseph Perry suffered from some mental malady in his later years --- I suppose he must have 'married out'." (26)

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Source Citations (for above)



1. Quaker Digest Register of Births, Marriages & Deaths from Suffolk Meetings, MM Woodbridge. Born 25/1/1793 at Woodbridge: Joseph Perry, of Elizabeth & Daniel, baker.



2. Warneford Hospital: Admissions & D, Admitted 25/3/183. Perry Jas, 38, married from Reading, Died 5/5/1831



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Perry data on file at Adelaide Library Archives





PRG 471 –               Summary

PRG 471 –   1           Ships diary Alfred

PRG 471 –   2,3,5,6,7   Assorted memories of descdnts, etc

PRG 471 –   4           Edw Perry letter

PRG 471 –   8           TPs Genealogy Book

PRG 471 –   9           Alf’s life summary

PRG 471 –   10, 11      Notes ex gr-daus of Alf

PRG 471 –   12          Photo of Alf Perry & family

PRG 471 –   13          letter transcripts



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There are quite a few other sundry papers in the in the SAAs PRG 471 series –



- a FULL TRANSCRIPT of 24 letters from 1841-45 (that are PRG 471 / 4)

- Alfreds diary of the voyage out, and its transcript (PRG 471 / 1,2)

- notes on pruning and fruit trees

- a letter from USA, Alfred Maws to Alfred [Palien ?] 1844

- a bit of a diary of the 1890s in USA

- the paper that TP read to the Geol Soc in B’ham June 21st 1841 (transcribed from the notebook??)

- an anecdote concerning James Nagle [?]

- a list of Quaker membership numbers at Dec 1844 for all Counties & Ireland, by Meeting

- the original Family History notebook of Thomas Perry (see below)

- a short typed set of biographical notes on Alfred Perry (PRG 471 / 9)

- some latter day Alfred Perry family history notes

- a photo of (probably) Alfred Perry standing behind a family group of about 10 (PRG 471 / 12)



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PERRY LETTERS (& PAPERS)



This is a collection of full or selected transcripts from letters (that I have, or have seen) that were written to or by the Perry family members in the 1840s/50s. Some are from originals transcribed by Anne Whiteway from some her mother Gwen Moxon (gr-grandaughter of Lucy Puplett nee Perry) had, and some are from the Alfred Perry material in the SA Library Archives (PRG 471). The following is an index of what is possibly the total of the family letters that still exist.

      The SA Archives apparently also have Alfred’s diary of his trip out to SA on the “Dumphries” in mid 1839, and the original of Thomas Perry’s family history notebook. I have Thomas Perry’s Geological Notebook (also ex Gwen Moxon).



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   Dated        ex               in         to          comments



11-9-1841   Thomas Perry      Bmingham    Alfred      [(?), Anne, WORD]

15-10-1841  Thomas Perry      Bmingham    Lucy        [K’bag, Anne. WORD] (*)

12-12-1841  Margaret Perry    Bmingham    Alfred      [SAA, Me, JPG]

9-1-1842    Margaret Perry    Bmingham    Alfred      [SAA, Me, extr only]

26-5-1842   John Hvy Perry    Finsbury    Alfred      [SAA, Me, JPG]

12-6-1842   Margaret Perry    Bmingham    Alfred      [SAA, Me, JPG]

14-12-1842  Thomas Perry      Bmingham    Alfred      [SAA, Me, WORD]

22-10-1842  Henry Deane       Clapham     Alfred      [SAA, Me, JPG]

Jan? 1843   Edward Perry      Finsbury    Alfred      [SAA, Me, JPG]

30-10-1843  Thomas Perry      Bmingham    Alfred      [(?), Anne, WORD]

 1843 ?     Thomas Perry      Bmingham    Alfred      [SAA, Me, WORD]

15-3-1844   John Hvy Perry    Finsbury    Alfred?     [SAA, Me, JPG]

17-5-1844   Thomas Perry      Bmingham    Alfred      [SAA, Me, extr only]

30-5-1844   Thomas Perry      Bmingham    Alfred      [SAA, Me, JPG]

31-5-1844   Thomas Perry      Bmingham    Alfred      [SAA, Me, JPG]

4-6-1844    Thomas Perry      Bmingham    Lucy        [K’bag, Anne, WORD] (*)

Nov?  1844  Thomas Perry      Bmingham    Alfred      [SAA, Me, extr only]

8-11-1844   Henry Deane       Clapham     Alfred      [SAA, Me, JPG]

17-11-1844  Thomas Perry      Bmingham    Alfred      [SAA, Me, JPG]

  1844 ?    Thomas Perry      Bmingham    Alfred      [SAA, Me, extr only]

21-1-1845   Henry Deane       Clapham     Alfred      [SAA, Me, JPG]

12-1-1845   Alfred Perry      Willunga    Thomas      [(?), Anne, WORD]

18-6-1845   Thomas Perry      Bmingham    Lucy        [K’bag, Anne, WORD] (*)

24-10-1845  Henry Deane       Clapham     Alfred      [SAA, Me, JPG]

28-11-1845  Thomas Perry      Bmingham    Alfred      [SAA, Me, JPG]

Dec 1845?   Thomas Perry      Bmingham    Alfred      [SAA, Me, WORD]

8-6-1846    Thomas Perry      Bmingham    Alfred      [SAA, Me, WORD]

27-1-1848   John Hvy Perry    Finsbury      (?)       [SAA, Me, JPG]

27-9-1848   John Hvy Perry                Alfred      [SAA, Me, extr only]

7-11-1848   Edward Perry      Didcot      Alfred      [SAA, Me, JPG]

7-1-1849    Edward Perry      Didcot      Alfred      [SAA, Me, extr only]

5-6-1849    Edward Perry      Didcot      Alfred      [SAA, Me, extr only]

20-2-1850   Margt? Perry      Reading     Alfred      [SAA, Me, JPG]

2-11-1854   Edward Perry      Oxford      Alfred      [SAA, Me, JPG]

3-6-1855    Edward Perry      Oxford      Alfred      [SAA, Me, JPG]



NOTE  The (?) above are presumably from SAA originals by Anne

      The [extr only] items must now be in the big flat SAA folders and don’t have full transcripts.

      The (*) items are the three originals in my kitbag, yet to donate.



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Other notes



      (Not sure where these extracts appear, probably in the Alfred Perry biog notes.)

      Alfred Perry died 14/4/1889

      In 1848 Joseph Harvey Perry emigrated on the “Marion” with his wife Priscilla (nee Browett) and their son (who died on the ship), but thay had another baby on the ship, but who later died. JHP died in 1853 when a tree fell on him while wood cutting near Mt Barker. Priscilla remarried James Rundle in 1856 and moved to Victoria with 2 surviving children.

      Charles Wickens worked at Murray’s Biscuit Factory in Coromandel Vly.



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PRG 471 / 7 – “Misc Papers of Alfred Perry c1840-50”



      This is a big flat folder containing many bits of paper, some that look like they’ve come from a notebook, or were loose leaf to begin with. They are-

(1)   The original of the reminiscence of John Sims (1689-1758/9) Brass Founder of Houndsditch, that Thomas Perry transcribed into the middle of his “Family History” notebook.



(2)   Many notes on the planting pruning and care of fruit trees, probably Alfred’s.



(3)   Some 1846 rainfall records.



(4)   A list titled “Number of Members of the Society of Friends in the respective Quarterly and Monthly Meetings in Great Britain and Ireland as stated in the British Friend for the twelvth month 1844”, with a list of places and numbers in two columns, all added up, totalling 18,580.



(5)   A letter from America by a Joshua Appleby in 1844



(6)   Part of a letter from Thomas Perry (has to be to Alfred) “...began days ago but only finished 24/11/1844”, telling of improvements lately in Reading, how Margaret (Alf’s sister) is thinking of leaving (prob B’ham) and going back there, how he (Thomas) is confined to the shop, cold weather



(7)   Seven page faces (ap 9”x8” written front and back) titled “Paper read before the Geological Section of the Philosophical Society at Birmingham June 21st 1841 – On the Gravel Beds of the Valey (sic) of the Thames as compared with the Bagshott Heath Sand & Gravel & connected with the Sarsen Stone of the Chalk Downs of Wiltshire and their parts – by Thos Perry.”



(8)   What looks like a loose page, written both sides, as five small discrete diary-type notes, each jotting lined off at their end, and dated between ‘94 and ‘99, but also showing at the end of each what looks like 2-3 digit page numbers (eg “p273”).

“Gracechurch Street Meeting 9/11/94” – heavy on religious comments

“Hitchin Meeting 26/10/94” – ditto

“Barking Meeting 18/1/95” – includes “...where the body of John Harvey (of West Ham) was brought... the house could not contain the people so as to get seats...”  [This is surely Thomas’s wife’s father]

“23/12/95” (no place) – more religious comments

“1/2/98” (no place) – includes “In the afternoon accompanied by Josh Smith went to the burial of the Widow Perry...” and mentions talking to her children and relatives.  [This is most likely the (Mrs) Elizabeth Perry who was buried 1/2/1798 from the Ratcliffe Meeting – source LDS]

“20/6/98” (no place) – mulling over the problems in Ireland.

“13/5/99” (no place) – something about a visit to an old lady in her cabin at “Pt Kinnick” (?) “14 miles from Aberdeen”

One entry is titled “From the Scattergood Memories when Wm Penn came into Pennsylvania the 2nd time...”  [William Penn died in 1718]



(9)   A scrap, looks like three tries at exact copying a set of words, “...old Palace of late (demolished?) Monestry called St Austain or Augustain without Burgate near Canterbury”, a phrase that appears in Thomas Perry’s “Family Hist” notebook.



(10) A scrap, some kind of “Anecdote” of a religious nature by a James Naylor.



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 Thomas Perry marriage certificate

            On the twenty first day of the twelth month one thousand eight hundred and nine, Thomas Perry of [Millbrook?] in the county of Hants, Iron Founder, son of Daniel Perry late of Woodbridge in the county of Suffolk, Baker deceased, and Elizabeth his wife surviving, and Elizabeth Harvey daughter of John Harvey late of West Ham in the county of Essex [Calico Printer] deceased, and Ann his wife surviving, took each other in marriage in a publick Assembly of the people called Quakers and others in Barking in the county of Essex in the presence of us,
                       
            Thomas Theobald of Bromley Msx, Calico Printer
                                    W Darton of Gracechurch St London, Bookseller
                                    Moses Deane, Stratford ?, Essex ?, Baker

            This marriage was solemnized between us,
                        Thomas Perry
                        Elizabeth Harvey

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